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Melody
10-22-2006, 07:28 AM
I feel caught up on rest some what. I know I zonked on the sofa early last night while the kids played.
Need to get ready for church, maybe go for brunch after. Then I get the lovely chore of digging out all winter coats, hats and mitts to wash it all up and see what I do and don't need to get for the kids. I'm thinking that ds3 needs snowpants, probably ds2 does, heck they probably all do. lol I think ds1 needs a coat. Oh joys, can't wait for that shopping trip. :rolleyes: I hate winter and all the yucky crap that goes with it. Why can't it just snow for 2 weeks of Christmas and then be hot and sticky again?
No other plans. Hope you all have a good day :)
SpeechMom
10-22-2006, 07:49 AM
We are going to church, we are going to church, we are going to church. We've really been slacking lately. We've visited a couple of Episcopal churches, but that's really just not working for us right now, so we're going back to the old church until we decide what to do. Might be just ds and me if dh is still sick.
Diane
10-22-2006, 08:00 AM
Up early... dh is still sleeping. Geeze... our paper actually made it to the front step this morning and I didn't have to play hide and seek to find it. Lately you never know where you're going to find it. Dh finally called and complained yesterday and they said they'd talk to the carrier. :rolleyes: The neighbor next door to us quit his paper. He called and complained and didn't get any results. He didn't think he should have to practically walk around his house to find it. LOL Some people (the carrier) can be so lazy.
Don't know what we've got planned for the day. I'd like to go somewhere, just not sure where yet. LOL It looks nice outside... so may go out and do some yard work while we can. I need to get in the kitchen and wipe everything down, including the floor. Besides that???/ :)
Anyway, I hope you all have a great day.
Melody
10-22-2006, 09:20 AM
We are going to church, we are going to church, we are going to church. We've really been slacking lately. We've visited a couple of Episcopal churches, but that's really just not working for us right now, so we're going back to the old church until we decide what to do. Might be just ds and me if dh is still sick.
I have to ask this. I have seen a few posts similiar to yours saying someone, like you, was looking for a new church. What makes you change from one to the other? Is it the religion itself or just the church/people? Is the religion say in Episcopal and Baptist the same so you are free to switch around? I do remember going to a few different ones as a kid but the only reason my parents sent us was because they had something cool (free) happening with the kids. I recall my mom saying it was all one in the same but now that I have a family of my own and have been going to one for so many years, to me it isn't and wouldn't be able to switch to a church of another religion. So, just wondering if you were looking for a new religion when you say looking for a new church or just the people and the way things are run.
I feel so much better today....I would say 95% better.....going to get some light housework done, and then hit the supermarket...
We wathed the Santa Clause 2 last night and oh it was so cute....now we are ready to see the third one next month...lol
The weekends seem to just slip by don't they....
Have a great one all.
I have to ask this. I have seen a few posts similiar to yours saying someone, like you, was looking for a new church. What makes you change from one to the other? Is it the religion itself or just the church/people? Is the religion say in Episcopal and Baptist the same so you are free to switch around? I do remember going to a few different ones as a kid but the only reason my parents sent us was because they had something cool (free) happening with the kids. I recall my mom saying it was all one in the same but now that I have a family of my own and have been going to one for so many years, to me it isn't and wouldn't be able to switch to a church of another religion. So, just wondering if you were looking for a new religion when you say looking for a new church or just the people and the way things are run.
I know for us, I was brought up Lutheran. I did the whole Sunday school, confirmation, marriage and baptisms in our Lutheran church in NY. When we moved constantly, I was always trying to search for a Lutheran, but I usually didn't like any of them-they were always formal. Then my neighbor in Pueblo wanted us to check out their United Methodist church and we LOVED it. Thinking back on how I was raised, it was always so formal and history based. This new church was current, had a strong spiritual edge and with topics that apply to your life. That was until the new pastor arrived....then it was about money, guilt and money. :( Now that we moved back to NY, we checked out all the area churches and nothing that I liked or felt like home. I find myself moving away from organized/formal religion and more into the spiritual side of it. I just wish there was something like that here that weren't borderline crazy. LOL
SpeechMom
10-22-2006, 09:50 AM
I have to ask this. I have seen a few posts similiar to yours saying someone, like you, was looking for a new church. What makes you change from one to the other? Is it the religion itself or just the church/people? Is the religion say in Episcopal and Baptist the same so you are free to switch around? I do remember going to a few different ones as a kid but the only reason my parents sent us was because they had something cool (free) happening with the kids. I recall my mom saying it was all one in the same but now that I have a family of my own and have been going to one for so many years, to me it isn't and wouldn't be able to switch to a church of another religion. So, just wondering if you were looking for a new religion when you say looking for a new church or just the people and the way things are run.
The church I've gone to since we moved down here is Fellowship Church, and it's absolutely massive. Since I remarried, dh and I really haven't connected with this church (when I was single, I belonged to a small group bible study called a HomeTeam). I do like the fact that this church is great for the kids, and quite frankly very easy to go to (you can wear anything you want and pretty much just sit through the service). Dh and I both have roots in the Episcopal church, but they're still going through a lot of turmoil, and it really is an effort to attend on Sunday morning (the congregation dresses up, and if you're not familiar with the service its difficult to follow along). Clothing may seem like a small thing, but if its been years since you had to worry about it, it adds stress to the morning that takes away from worship.
We haven't changed religions - we're Christians and I don't mind attending a different denomination if the theology is solid. We're just looking for something smaller, with programs where we all feel like we can belong.
Today I am making beef stew in the crockpot and dh brought home a bushel of apples from the farm. Supposedly, he is going to peel and cut them all if I make them into apple pies for him. I feel a back massage in my future too (hey! negotiation is hard work! LOL)
Another dreary day outside. We get to have this again tomorrow but with the extra benefit of possible snow. :rolleyes: To make myself feel better, I think I will make the family clean up around here. I will light some good smelly candles and hopefully, that will make me cheery. :)
Dh and I both have roots in the Episcopal church, but they're still going through a lot of turmoil, and it really is an effort to attend on Sunday morning (the congregation dresses up, and if you're not familiar with the service its difficult to follow along). Clothing may seem like a small thing, but if its been years since you had to worry about it, it adds stress to the morning that takes away from worship.
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I know exactly what you are talking about!!!
angie r
10-22-2006, 10:26 AM
It is cold and gray today. We were going to the zoo, but rethinking that now. Brichard leaves today for another business trip. It's so funny how I miss him before he even leaves, lol.
I'd like to get to the fabric store to get the fleece I need to make ds's blanket. Other than that, who knows what's up for today!?
Have a wonderful Sunday!
Melody
10-22-2006, 04:26 PM
Amy, Donna, thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess the Christian religions are basically the same, just the feel of the church is what I understand. I just couldn't figure out which part you were switching for earlier. I do understand, I think it's very important to feel comfortable with the church you attend, how you feel being part of the congregation and the message they are sending. I remember when my parents tried to start going to church when I was a teen and my mom would have had a fit if my brother wore anythig but a suit and me a dress! ugh, I couldn't imagine having to do that every weekend and feel so comfortable where I am in our church. lol I think part of that was a generation thing but I didn't feel like I was very welcome or belonged in those churches. Here when we started to go again, even the same location, we just jumped in to helping with things and were totally welcomed. It's not about how you are dressed or where you sit.
Melody
10-22-2006, 04:27 PM
It's so funny how I miss him before he even leaves, lol.
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How nice!
Can't tell you how much I would love to send mine packing for a couple of weeks right now! lol
vea29
10-22-2006, 04:33 PM
Just saying a quick hello....I'm so lazy....going to go veg...Have a great night!
littlesista06
10-22-2006, 05:24 PM
Dh is home!
Dd and I went to church, shopped a bit then got home shortly after dh did. We're just realxing and gearing up for a busy week.
Mickey
10-22-2006, 06:39 PM
Amy, Donna, thanks for clearing that up for me. I guess the Christian religions are basically the same, just the feel of the church is what I understand. I just couldn't figure out which part you were switching for earlier. I do understand, I think it's very important to feel comfortable with the church you attend, how you feel being part of the congregation and the message they are sending.
I understand the "feel" of the church because I have been to many different Catholic Churches in my area and they all have a different feel to them, but I would never change denominations in search of that. Do churches of a particular denomination not vary in this respect? Are Protestant denominations more similar to each other than I think? I've seen some extremes in Protestant religions--for example, I know that the fundamentalist denominations are very different from Episcopalian. But maybe the others are similar?
Hey Mickey, How you feeling?
SpeechMom
10-23-2006, 08:18 AM
I understand the "feel" of the church because I have been to many different Catholic Churches in my area and they all have a different feel to them, but I would never change denominations in search of that. Do churches of a particular denomination not vary in this respect? Are Protestant denominations more similar to each other than I think? I've seen some extremes in Protestant religions--for example, I know that the fundamentalist denominations are very different from Episcopalian. But maybe the others are similar?
You can find just about anything you're looking for, I think. I think I could handle just about any type service at this point in my life. Not that I would choose that church as our church home. I don't know about all denominations, but when I was explaining the difference in Fellowship Church (non denominational with Southern Baptist roots) vs. Episcopal to my kids, I said the core values are the same, the difference is mainly style.
SpeechMom
10-23-2006, 08:21 AM
I know exactly what you are talking about!!!
I tell ya though, its like with the cell phones, some people just have no sense. I saw 2 women with their midriff's showing (not much, but still) in church!!!! Casual does not mean slutty!
I tell ya though, its like with the cell phones, some people just have no sense. I saw 2 women with their midriff's showing (not much, but still) in church!!!! Casual does not mean slutty!
I used to be that way, and still want my kids to dress appropriately, but I am finding that my standards are loosening up more and more. I would rather have them be at church than use what to wear as excuse not to go.
I understand the "feel" of the church because I have been to many different Catholic Churches in my area and they all have a different feel to them, but I would never change denominations in search of that. Do churches of a particular denomination not vary in this respect? Are Protestant denominations more similar to each other than I think? I've seen some extremes in Protestant religions--for example, I know that the fundamentalist denominations are very different from Episcopalian. But maybe the others are similar?
They are probably more similar than you think and probably more similar to the catholic church than you think. There are some biggies that differ..predetermination/predestination, good works versus grace alone, infant baptism versus age of consent, bible as the divine word of God or passed down via man and transitory to the times..between the denominations, but ultimately all protestant religons (including Catholism) are all Christian religions so it's just semantics and nitpicking in alot of ways.
Mickey
10-23-2006, 11:33 AM
Hey Mickey, How you feeling?
I'm feeling pretty good, Renee! Thank you for asking! :)
We (I) had a party this past Saturday night and it was lots of fun, but LOTS of work for me and I am completely exhausted from it. We also have houseguests and visitors who are in from out of town and spending a lot of time here, so that doesn't help. But I'm feeling good in every other way and she's kicking up a storm! :roll:
Mickey
10-23-2006, 11:37 AM
They are probably more similar than you think and probably more similar to the catholic church than you think. There are some biggies that differ..predetermination/predestination, good works versus grace alone, infant baptism versus age of consent, bible as the divine word of God or passed down via man and transitory to the times..between the denominations, but ultimately all protestant religons (including Catholism) are all Christian religions so it's just semantics and nitpicking in alot of ways.
I'm wondering why they all broke off into so many denominations if they are really that similar.
Regarding the feel of the service, I've been to en Episcopal Church and the service is very similar to Catholic mass, but the other Protestant churches I've visited are nothing at like that.
Mickey
10-23-2006, 11:46 AM
You can find just about anything you're looking for, I think. I think I could handle just about any type service at this point in my life. Not that I would choose that church as our church home. I don't know about all denominations, but when I was explaining the difference in Fellowship Church (non denominational with Southern Baptist roots) vs. Episcopal to my kids, I said the core values are the same, the difference is mainly style.
That makes sense. I just didn't realize the the beliefs were so similar. I think the non-denominational churches are popular here among Protestants, but they seem to be very fundamentalist. I'm wondering if that varies among non-denominational churches or if they are all pretty much that way.
That makes sense. I just didn't realize the the beliefs were so similar. I think the non-denominational churches are popular here among Protestants, but they seem to be very fundamentalist. I'm wondering if that varies among non-denominational churches or if they are all pretty much that way.
I have been to non denominational churches that would be considered liberal and I have been to some that have been more bible based. I can think of two big nondenominational churches that are anything but fundamentalist but very bible based. Lakewood here, with Joel Olsteen as head pastor and Robert Schuller's church in CA.
As to your other question, most of the times when there is a split in a church it's more over politics than religion. Church of England was founded because King Henry wanted a divorce and the Catholic church said no, so he started his own religion/church! LOL
But like I said, the main reason why denominations differ is on interpretation. A person starts to believe more in more that they are saved by grace alone rather than good deeds might find themselves not comfortable being Catholic (or even methodist, that's an issue within the methodist church in it'self) and find themselves more aligned with either the Baptist or Presbyterian denomination. Someone might feel strongly that a child should wait for baptism until they are old enough to make the commitment for themselves, would be drawn towards a denomination that doesn't believe in infant baptism. People that like alot of the formality of the Catholic church, but don't agree with some of their doctrine, might find themselves drawn to Episopalian churches.
SpeechMom
10-23-2006, 01:19 PM
Lakewood here, with Joel Olsteen as head pastor
I've seen Joel on TV - ther's something very comforting about him.
But like I said, the main reason why denominations differ is on interpretation.
Right, and it seems to snowball. There might be a rift based on the interpretation of one point, which leads to a multitute of other points being thrown into the mix until there's no way to come together again.
Mickey
10-23-2006, 02:39 PM
Ok, I think I understand now. Politics seems to be the issue, not beliefs.
I really liked the Episcopal Church for the ritualistic similarities. My friend, whose husband used to be Catholic, says that they love their Methodist Church and that there are a lot of former Catholics there.
Thanks for the explanations and clarification!
I've seen Joel on TV - ther's something very comforting about him.
DH laughs at me all the time, if Joel is on TV we can't change the channel....I find the way he talk and shares insights very engaging.....comforting, and easy to listen to and HEAR!
MaryL
10-23-2006, 09:31 PM
DH laughs at me all the time, if Joel is on TV we can't change the channel....I find the way he talk and shares insights very engaging.....comforting, and easy to listen to and HEAR!
OMG!! I'm totally laughing here! I'm the same way!!! I don't know why, but I really like listening to him!
Diane
10-23-2006, 09:51 PM
I find the way he talk and shares insights very engaging.....comforting, and easy to listen to and HEAR!
I totally agree. I've listened to him a few times, and unlike so many others, I have found him very enjoyable to listen to. :)
Lots of people who are really into the "Left Behind" series believe that Olsteen is the antichrist in the book and Bush is the ineffectual pseudo Christian president! LOL
It's amazing what he has done with his father's ministry. I like his message, but I can see where the criticism of his message comes from..it's a whole lot of feel good and good parts of the bible without really focusing on the consequences of sin/our actions.
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