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RCT
12-07-2006, 08:21 AM
http://www.gardasil.com/?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=GL047

I posted the link in case you haven't heard of it...

thoughts please

AnnW
12-07-2006, 09:01 AM
As someone who lived their whole life from the age of 14 until 44 when i had my hysterectomy with the very high risk of cervical cancer, I would have done this in a flash!
I will probably look into it for dd. It's one of the easiest cancers to catch and treat though. The HPV virus is a pretty nasty one and can do all sorts of damage that the child may not even know about until they are grown up and trying to have kids of their own.

Melody
12-07-2006, 09:09 AM
I have a family history of cervical and uteran cancer, I'd get it. Not clear on if it would help with that specific kind but I think it's worth it anyhow.

BevJ
12-07-2006, 11:53 AM
My mother had cervical cancer when I was 11 or 12 and had a total hysterectomy. I think I might ask my doctor about it next time I'm in for a visit.

AnnW
02-05-2007, 07:11 PM
well, i have changed my mind. i am finding out some things that are making me worried for the same reason i was in favor. i lost my fertility because of a drug that wasn't thoroughly tested. I am not sure in good conscience that I can risk my daughter's fertility. Unless someone doesn't get regular paps, it's very rare that cervical cancer is not caught in it's earlies stages.

you may have heard in the news that our gov has made it a mandatory vaccination. i just sent him this letter

Dear Gov. Perry, My mother was given the drug, DES, when she was pregnant with me. (1958) It was supposed to be the miracle drug that would prevent miscarriages. Instead it caused cervical cancer or infertility in the female offspring. How ironic that one of the results of the drug was cervical cancer, when we are now talking about a drug that is supposed to prevent it. I lost my ability to have biological children because of a drug that was not completely tested. I do not believe that I could, in good conscience, put my daughter at the same risk and for the same reason. I agree that cervical cancer is horrible, but with regular pap smears it CAN be caught early.
What if we found out 10 years down the rode that the drug had horrible long term repercussions like we found out with DES?
Please allow me to figure out which risk is greater?
Please allow me the ability to decide what to choose for my 13 year old daughter.
Please resend this mandatory law.
Sincerely, AnnW

BevJ
02-05-2007, 08:10 PM
Bravo, Ann! Well said.

angie r
02-05-2007, 08:21 PM
They discussed this topic on The View this morning and they were all against the mandatory vaccination as am I!

AnnW
02-05-2007, 10:05 PM
mandatory is a whole other issue. i would never be in favor of that.

i am just not sure i am going to vaccinate dd at all for this.

RCT
02-05-2007, 10:32 PM
Wow, I can't even imagine it being mandatory.

Ann I had never even thought about long term side effects being like those of DES. I don't like the odds of not knowing either.

I have to go check our state position on this now...YIKES!

AnnW
02-05-2007, 10:39 PM
here's a good Q&A from WebMD. the vaccine only even works for 4 years. do they know if a booster works?
i was so excited about this vaccine until it hit me, it could be another DES. I know I am probably overly sensitive about this, but I am just thinking I am going to pass, and if it does become law, well...look for me in the pokey! LOL

also, this seems to only protect them from the HPV related cancers.


a Q&A from WebMD
1. What is Gardasil?

Gardasil is a vaccine that targets four strains of human papillomavirus (HPV). Those strains are called HPV-6, HPV-11, HPV-16, and HPV-18.

HPV-16 and HPV-18 account for about 70% of all cervical cancers. Cervical cancerCervical cancer is cancercancer of the cervix, which connects the vagina to the uterus.

HPV-6 and HPV-11 account for about 90% of genital wartswarts.

The vaccine is also approved to help prevent vaginal and vulvar cancers, which can also be caused by HPV.

2. How does HPV spread?

HPV is spread through sex. HPV infection is common. About 20 million people in the U.S. are infected with HPV, and by age 50, at least 80% of women will have had an HPV infection, according to the CDC.

Most women with HPV infection don't develop cervical cancer.

3. Does Gardasil protect against all cervical cancers?

No. Though the vaccine protects against leading causes of cervical cancer, it doesn't ward off other causes of cervical cancer.

4. How effective is Gardasil?

Studies have shown 100% effectiveness in protecting against infection with HPV-16 and HPV-18 strains in people who had not been previously exposed to the virus.

5. How long does Gardasil last?

Tests show that the vaccine lasts at least four years. Long-term results aren't known yet.

6. Does the vaccine contain a live virus?

No. Gardasil contains a virus-like particle, but not the virus itself.

7. Who should get the vaccine?

The FDA approved Gardasil for girls and women aged 9-26. The FDA's decision doesn't automatically make the vaccine part of the CDC's recommended vaccine schedule.

The drug company Merck, which makes Gardasil, reportedly is studying the vaccine in women up to age 45 and may seek to broaden the approval group based on those results.

Merck is also continuing to research use of the vaccine in boys and men, as they can also become infected with HPV, which could lead to genital warts.

Merck is a WebMD sponsor.

8. Is Gardasil safe?

Reports from clinical trials, to date, show Gardasil to be safe.

9. Will Gardasil protect women from cervical cancer who've already been exposed to HPV?

Gardasil is not designed to protect people who've already been exposed to HPV.

10. Will the new vaccine eliminate the need for cervical cancer screening?

No. Gardasil doesn't protect against all causes of cervical cancer, so screening (such as the Pap test) will still be needed. Screening is essential to detect cancer and precancerous lesions caused by other HPV types. Screening will also continue to be necessary for women who have not been vaccinated or are already infected with HPV.

11. Are there other cervical cancer vaccines?

Gardasil is the first cervical cancer vaccine to be approved. In fact, it's the first vaccine to protect against a risk factor for a cancer. Another cervical cancer vaccine, called Cervarix, is also in the works. It's expected to be submitted for approval by the end of 2006.

12. How many people get cervical cancer and die from the disease?

About 9,710 cases of invasive cervical cancer will be diagnosed in the U.S. in 2006, predicts the American Cancer Society.

About 3,700 U.S. women will die of cervical cancer in 2006, according to the American Cancer Society.

Worldwide, cervical cancer is a leading cause of cancer deaths for women. According to the FDA there are 470,000 new cases and 233,000 deaths each year.

RCT
02-05-2007, 10:45 PM
I think you have every right to worry about it being another DES.....

We don't really know what the long term side effects will or could be....

I can't believe that your Gov. would want it to be mandated.....so soon...when was this vac. even approved?

AnnW
02-05-2007, 10:52 PM
I think it was in June.
He's being applauded for being so proactive by many people. I know women doctors are just ecstatic of this. And believe me, anything that could take away the shadow I lived under, would be great. but......... :nervous:

RCT
02-05-2007, 10:54 PM
OK I AM NOT HAPPY EITHER
BILL of the week (1/18/07)

Assembly Bill 16 (Lieber-D, Mountain View)

The most pervasive sexually transmitted disease, human papillomavirus (HPV), infecting millions annually, causes most cases of cervical cancer – the second-leading cause of death among women worldwide. The seriousness of this underscores the need for public education and disease prevention.



Gardasil, a vaccine approved by the FDA for use with women aged 9-26, has shown to be effective in preventing several strains of HPV. The idea is to inoculate young girls before they become sexually active. Nationwide, a movement is on to require girls to receive the vaccine before they enter middle school. AB 16 would enact that requirement in California law. While making the vaccine available for health considerations is a good idea, making it mandatory for young girls is not.



Making Gardasil mandatory for school attendance risks trampling parental rights. Parents have an explicit right and responsibility to raise their young children.

Diane
02-05-2007, 11:41 PM
well, i have changed my mind. i am finding out some things that are making me worried for the same reason i was in favor. i lost my fertility because of a drug that wasn't thoroughly tested. I am not sure in good conscience that I can risk my daughter's fertility. Unless someone doesn't get regular paps, it's very rare that cervical cancer is not caught in it's earlies stages.

you may have heard in the news that our gov has made it a mandatory vaccination. i just sent him this letter

Dear Gov. Perry, My mother was given the drug, DES, when she was pregnant with me. (1958) It was supposed to be the miracle drug that would prevent miscarriages. Instead it caused cervical cancer or infertility in the female offspring. How ironic that one of the results of the drug was cervical cancer, when we are now talking about a drug that is supposed to prevent it. I lost my ability to have biological children because of a drug that was not completely tested. I do not believe that I could, in good conscience, put my daughter at the same risk and for the same reason. I agree that cervical cancer is horrible, but with regular pap smears it CAN be caught early.
What if we found out 10 years down the rode that the drug had horrible long term repercussions like we found out with DES?
Please allow me to figure out which risk is greater?
Please allow me the ability to decide what to choose for my 13 year old daughter.
Please resend this mandatory law.
Sincerely, AnnW


Great letter, Ann. Well said... :)

littlesista06
02-06-2007, 06:35 AM
OK I AM NOT HAPPY EITHER
BILL of the week (1/18/07)

Assembly Bill 16 (Lieber-D, Mountain View)

The most pervasive sexually transmitted disease, human papillomavirus (HPV), infecting millions annually, causes most cases of cervical cancer – the second-leading cause of death among women worldwide. The seriousness of this underscores the need for public education and disease prevention.



Gardasil, a vaccine approved by the FDA for use with women aged 9-26, has shown to be effective in preventing several strains of HPV. The idea is to inoculate young girls before they become sexually active. Nationwide, a movement is on to require girls to receive the vaccine before they enter middle school. AB 16 would enact that requirement in California law. While making the vaccine available for health considerations is a good idea, making it mandatory for young girls is not.


Making Gardasil mandatory for school attendance risks trampling parental rights. Parents have an explicit right and responsibility to raise their young children.

am i reading it totally wrong, or are they agreeing that it is not a good idea and will not be made mandatory? (it's early and i haven't had any caffiene yet, so i could be misinterpreting this completely)

AnnW
02-06-2007, 07:15 AM
Sista, i think that article while in favor of the vaccine, is not in favor of making it mandatory.

RCT
02-06-2007, 08:47 AM
Sista, i think that article while in favor of the vaccine, is not in favor of making it mandatory.

As am I, when I see more PROOF.

Ann your post made me think, I was up late researching this stupid bill they want to pass....I don't like that it hasn't been through more trials, and that they DON'T know what the long term effects are....ARGH....

Its strange, here in CA if you don't want your kids immunized somehow they get around that....which makes our schools full of kids with preventalbe illnesses.