View Full Version : No more Disney movies..... (vent)
jwmcdaniel
08-24-2001, 11:49 PM
....for us!
I'm sorry, but I just have to get this out of my system.
A friend and I just took our dds to see The Princess Diaries - rated G. I was so shocked at what Disney or the Motion Picture Assoc. or Ratings Board thinks a G - rated movie can contain!!!
At this rate, she'll be MY age before she gets to see a PG movie!
There were words that we NEVER say in our house, like suck....
And, there was a good deal of close up shots of on the mouth kissing that you just did not need to see and one shot of a boy coming up and comsuming a bubble gum bubble coming out of a girl's mouth!! Yuck! It was just too suggestive for a G film in my opinion. Not to mention the scene where the 'princess' and the high school hottie are in a surf shack and he's trying do to 'his thing' with her..... 8o ...ugh.
My opinion of and respect for Disney has diminished greatly in the last few years. Dh and I were excited to be able to show dd the Disney movies because Disney has always had that family value, wholesome reputation. But, once we really SAW what was in the films, we saw, violence - almost all films have at least one scary character and/or one scary scene and we just don't feel you always need that to make a good quality children's film.
Ok, I'm done. I feel like I need to write a letter, or make a placard and protest or something!!! LOL
To those who don't feel this way toward the Disney films, I respect that. But I just had to say how uncomfortable this film made us feel with our daughers there watching. (hopefully, most went over their heads)
~ Jennifer
Mickey
08-25-2001, 12:14 AM
I'm so sorry you're disappointed! I've been frustrated on several occasions, too. The ratings seem very messed up sometimes. I'm also surprised at what some G-rated movies contain and I've also let ds see PG-rated movies that were better than some G-rated ones in my opinion.
Try going to Kids-In-Mind (http://www.kidsinmind.com/) to check out movies in the future. They rate each movie on sex/nudity, violence/gore and profanity. They describe scenes in detail, too. Here's what they said about Princess Diaries:
http://www.kids-in-mind.com/P/princess_diaries_2001.htm
angie r
08-25-2001, 03:13 AM
That is a great website Mickey, thank you!
Mickey
08-25-2001, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by angie r
That is a great website Mickey, thank you!
You're welcome! I actually got that site here! I think Rae posted about it.
Where IS Rae anyway? Haven't seen her in a while!
Personally, I don't have problems with the sexuality, it's the violence that gets me. I read something that said that a G rating is like "death" to the movie industry, but if you looked at the top grossing films about ninety percent of them are rated G!!
It's disappointing that there are no decent films to take kids to. And I am with you that it is unnecessary for the gratuitous sex and violence.
Amy
Sasha Rowan
08-25-2001, 05:04 PM
We like Blues Clues and Pooh around here. Nice clean fun. Iwish they would make more like that. But the few that are made go directly to video. Of course my oldest is 5. Older kids probably wouldn't be caught watching them.
jwmcdaniel
08-25-2001, 06:51 PM
Mickey, thanks for the site - I've added it to my "favorites"!!
DD is soooo fond of musicals, it's a shame the days of those are over. (as I speak, she's watching Dr. Doolittle - the ORIGINAL one) - can't let her see the Eddie Murphy version. I actually caught a trailer for it and one of the animals actually said something about sex or not getting any, or something. I have a real problem with her being exposed to that at such an early age.
Originally posted by jwmcdaniel
[- can't let her see the Eddie Murphy version. I actually caught a trailer for it and one of the animals actually said something about sex or not getting any, or something. I have a real problem with her being exposed to that at such an early age. [/B]
You know, cartoonists have been using double entendre for decades. I doubt your kids would even know that it's about sex. Unless your five year old is waaaaaayyy more mature than mine is!
Amy
Mickey
08-25-2001, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by jwmcdaniel
Mickey, thanks for the site - I've added it to my "favorites"!!
DD is soooo fond of musicals, it's a shame the days of those are over. (as I speak, she's watching Dr. Doolittle - the ORIGINAL one) - can't let her see the Eddie Murphy version. I actually caught a trailer for it and one of the animals actually said something about sex or not getting any, or something. I have a real problem with her being exposed to that at such an early age.
You're welcome, Jennifer!
It is a shame that they don't make some movies like they used to, but at the same time, I find that many older cartoons and movies are more inappropriate because of how things have changed over the years. Someone bought ds a Casper and Friends video for his birthday two years ago and in it is a robber who shoots and kills someone and when they die, they become a ghost...ds was all wide-eyed and said, "You don't SHOOT people, DO YOU, Mommy?" I turned it off and told him that I didn't think it was something he should watch.
We also bought Pinnochio (I don't remember ever seeing it as a kid) and ds' favorite parts are when the cuckoo clocks are working and there's one of a bare-bottomed child being spanked and he's crying and another of a drunk drinking from a whiskey bottle, staggering and hiccupping. Later, Pinnochio goes to a pool hall and smokes and gets drunk and they keep talking about being turned into "jackasses".
So, I think you even have to be careful about some movies/cartoons made back in "the good old days".
TXmom
08-25-2001, 11:20 PM
2 Amy
I agree - those old Bugs bunny cartoons are the worst!
Mickey
08-25-2001, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Amy
You know, cartoonists have been using double entendre for decades. I doubt your kids would even know that it's about sex. Unless your five year old is waaaaaayyy more mature than mine is!
Amy
I agree that ds doesn't pick up on most of the hidden/double meaning stuff that is aimed at adults--an example is in Toy Story when Woody gets all indignant about Buzz's silly little blinking light that does nothing and someone asks, "What's wrong with HIM?" and Mr. Potato Head says, "Laser envy." Ds didn't think twice about that and if he said it out of the blue in Wal-mart, it wouldn't be a big deal. But I wouldn't want him to hear something like "I need to get me some!", though...he repeats stuff, even if he doesn't understand the true meaning behind it.
There's a lot out there I wouldn't want ds to be exposed to, however, cleavage, brief nudity (not sexual!), kissing (short and no tongue) and innuendo he won't pick up on are not on my list of "must avoids".
We saw The Grinch (which was rated PG) and it had some innuendo and jokes that were WAY over ds' head. I was fine with it. Then we saw Rugrats (rated G) and I hated it--heard "Stupid Babies!" and "booger" for a week afterwards. My ds picks up on words and phrases, so I'm more particular about that. Don't like violence, but I don't have a problem with slapstick-type stuff--like George of the Jungle swinging from a vine and hitting into a tree.
Guess it's just a matter of what you're comfortable with, but I find that so-called "ratings" don't mean much to me. I look up movies at kids-in-mind before I go no matter what the rating.
Mickey, I'm with you. DS got an adorable Rugrats Valentine's Day book as a gift, and I started reading it to him. The first page the little one says "Why are we eating cookies shaped like our butts?" I didn't find this funny, I thought "Great, here we go!" It's frustrating, but your point is well taken, I guess it depends on what you're comfortable with. I would rather my kids see someone kissing than hear about boogers and butts and "stupid" things. In our house "stupid" is like saying "****" or something bad. And ds lets everyone know that saying stupid is NOT okay!
This is funny. Sort of. We were over at the in laws place for dinner a while back, and ds spilled his drink. He said very calmly "Daddy, I just have to say f***." (All) our jaws dropped and it was all we could do not to fall off the furniture laughing! DH very calmly explained that that was very rude, and while he understood that spilling his drink was a bummer, we don't say that. Where did he get THAT!! It was clear he certainly got the context! Fortunately he doesn't go around saying it, it was just that night (of course, in front of the in laws!) but still, yikes!!
Amy
KarlaB
08-26-2001, 09:08 PM
LOL about your ds! Amazing what they pick up and how they know exactly when to say it! 8o My 3 yo niece went thru a stage of saying, "Oh sh*t" when she dropped something. Sometimes it was so hard not to let her see us laugh because we didn't want her to think it was appropriate, but it just caught us so off guard coming out of such a (cute) little mouth!!
Ditto on the comments about these movies and their content. Dks have been watching Rugrats lately and youngest ds has started saying stupid - not good!! :\
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